Orange County Governments Talk Recycling Funding

County and town elected officials met Thursday night to work out how to fund recycling and solid waste services.

Legislative boards from the towns of Chapel Hill, Carrboro and Hillsborough met with the Orange County Board of Commissioners.

The Solid Waste Advisory Group (SWAG), made up of elected officials from each local government, has come up with two funding options.

  • Option 1: A two-part fee with $94 a year for urban property and $118 per year for rural property.
  • Option 2: A flat fee of $103 per year for all Orange County property. (The exact dollar amounts could change since projections are based on the fiscal year 2014/15 budget.)

Board members from the county and towns said they would prefer a flat fee, but not members of the Chapel Hill Town Council.

“Right now I am unwilling to ask people I represent to pay more to achieve a one-fee system,” said Chapel Hill Town Council member Jim Ward. “Chapel Hill taxpayers are paying for more than they are getting in services.”

Chapel Hill Mayor Mark Kleinschmidt pointed to a UNC survey that found town residents make up only 11 percent of those who use the county’s solid waste convenience centers. He said the two-part fee would be more equitable than the flat fee.

Others said the flat fee would be a way to bring together all Orange County residents and spread out the costs.

“You all know I teach,” said Carrboro Alderwoman Randee Haven-O’Donnell. “My students, after their lunch they’ve got paper; they’ve got bottles sitting on their tables. And if the mindset was, ‘I’m only going to take care of my own recycling, and we didn’t help with the other recycling’ . . . where would we be?”

O’Donnell drew a comparison between students helping out with the whole group’s recycling and a flat fee for the whole county.

County Commissioner Barry Jacobs, the chair of SWAG, also favors the flat fee.

“I think we spend way too much time trying to figure out who’s getting over on whom instead of saying we’re all in this together,” said Jacobs. “We have a bigger opponent in Raleigh that’s going to bring things down on us that’s not going to be good for any of our governments . . . We’re going to have various challenges that we can only even begin to address if we feel like we’re partners.”

The governments pondered the possibility of piloting a funding option for one to three years. Officials could gather data on how well it’s working and then reassess.

The four governments could agree on a funding plan for recycling and waste services by the end of April.

Town and County Leaders Debate How to Pay for Recycling

Town and county leaders are coming closer to consensus on how to fund recycling pick-up.

Leaders from Hillsborough, Carrboro and Orange County agree all residents should pay a flat fee to fund recycling pick-up.

Solid Waste Director Gayle Wilson says the $103 fee would apply to all developed properties throughout the county.

“This option presents, sort of, a new funding paradigm and a new way of viewing the solid waste program,” he says, “in that it eliminates any obvious division between rural and urban boundaries.

“And [it] reflects how our program is actually administered and operated, which is a fully integrated program. No more multi-tiered patchwork of fees.”

Town and county officials have agreed to collaborate on recycling. To do that, they will need to sign off on a funding plan by the end of April so the new fees can be incorporated into next year’s budget.

A Solid Waste Advisory Group made up of elected officials has been working for six months to bring two options to the table. One is a tiered option that charges urban households $94 and rural households $118. The other is a flat fee charged to all residents.

Both options would require the $1.85 million annually the county has already been allocating from its General Fund.

Chapel Hill Mayor Mark Kleinschmidt says if all households pay the same fee, residents of Chapel Hill will carry a heavier weight than other residents.

“35 percent of the fees that would be collected from the recycling fee, would be allocated to join that $1.8 million dollars to pay for all of the solid waste convenience centers,” he says. The convenience centers are all located in more rural areas of the county.

Kleinschmidt adds, “As a municipal resident, when I look at that I say, ‘Ok 35 percent of what I pay in recycling is going to go toward convenience centers.’ And, if you live in Chapel Hill, one half of that $1.8 million is coming from you and your neighbors.”

He did say that he believes there will, ultimately, be an agreement between all involved parties.

Regardless of which option the boards and council choose, the program would extend recycling pick-up to all homes in Orange County. Wilson told Commissioner Renee Price this can be done, despite challenges including long gravel driveways and small private roads.

Currently 700 low-income homeowners have their solid waste fees subsidized by the county. With the expansion of the recycling program to more rural areas, Board Chair Earl McKee says that number could go up.

“I expect that as you get out into the more rural areas, you will have more elderly who are [on a] very limited income and more who are financially stressed,” he says.

Commissioners on Tuesday agreed they favor the flat rate, but left room to negotiate with Chapel Hill.

All parties will discuss the plan at next week’s Assembly of Governments.

New Recycling Carts Roll Out for OC Residents

The delivery of 7,000 blue recycling carts to residents of Orange County is underway.

Delivery began last Friday and officials are hoping to have the drop offs completed by the end of next week, barring any weather complications.

Blair Pollock is a Planner with Orange County Solid Waste, and he says there were too many variables for the county to determine who received a cart. To simplify the process, they distributed new 95-gallon capacity carts at the request of residents.

Pollock says he did not have the exact distribution locations, but many clusters of homes likely all signed up for carts – specifically homes just outside the town limits.

“They look just like an in-town [neighborhood], but they happen to be just out of town. The odds are good that the vast majority of those are going to switch,” he says. “And the odds are further good that, if 80 percent switched and the other 20 percent didn’t, there may be some that come back. We’re already starting to see a little bit of that.”

Pollock says they had 7,000 requests for new carts among the 14,200 residents who were eligible to receive them. He adds they have a small surplus for those late to decide they would like to have a recycling cart.

“We ordered about 500 more carts than we had orders for,” he says. “We’re hopeful we’ll be able to fill most of the request for people now.

“Otherwise, between the possible expansion of the routes [depending upon the budget] and if there’s a bigger second request for carts, we’ll try to order some more next fiscal year.”

Pollock says the new carts, which have a capacity of more than five of the recycling bins county residents are currently using, will increase efficiency of recycling in the area. He adds the infrastructure is in place to handle the additional waste.

“The markets are reasonably good for all of these materials,” he says. “North Carolina, in particular, has a very robust plastic recycling industry.”

Residents can begin using their recycling carts immediately upon receiving them, and the pickup service will operate on a bi-weekly schedule. Pollock says if the lid of your cart does not fit properly upon arrival, it should conform back to the correct shape in less than 48 hours.

Residents can choose to keep their bins to use as intermediate, or overflow, storage. They may also return their bins to the convenience centers where they currently deposit their recycling.

And there will be no change for residents who chose to continue recycling with their bins and manually dropping off at the convenience centers.

Blue Recycling Roll Carts Set To Roll Out In Orange County

The Orange County Board of Commissioners last week approved the purchase of 7,600 recycling roll carts at a cost of $444,144. Chapel Hill and Carrboro received 90 gallon carts to replace the smaller bins earlier this year.

“I’m very supportive of this and I think that the people in the county, the 7,000 people that want their roll-out carts are going to be thrilled,” said Commissioner Penny Rich.

The county’s rural recycling program serves only a fraction of the residents of unincorporated Orange, about 13,700 households. Others take their trash and recycling to one of the five solid waste convenience centers around the county.

When commissioners first debated purchasing the roll carts for county residents, some residents objected, saying their long driveways and lack of curbs made the carts hard to use.

Gayle Wilson, director of Orange County Solid Waste, told the board slightly more than half of the current customers requested roll carts. He asked the board to authorize the purchase of additional carts in case others changed their minds.

“It is expected that once we start distributing the carts, people will decide that they do want a cart rather than continue to use their bins, or they may have not responded previously and saw a nice, shiny new bin at their neighbors and they call up and they want one,” said Wilson.

Commissioners approved it by a 6-1 vote with Chair Earl McKee opposing. While the purchase had broad support on the board, some, including Commissioner Barry Jacobs, worried it might be short-sighted, coming at time when the towns and county are working on a long-term plan for solid waste.

“Considering that the Solid Waste Advisory Group is looking at the methods for funding curbside or roadside pickup, is this not putting the carts before the horse?”

Jacobs serves on the Solid Waste Advisory Group (SWAG), an intergovernmental work group tasked with identifying a county-wide solution to handle trash and recycling as well as a means to fund it. He and fellow SWAG member Rich told board members the work group will present a slate of proposals for funding recycling pick-up in the spring of 2015.

In the meantime, the new blue carts will roll out in January to 7,000 Orange county residents.

Local Governments Hashing Out Agreement for Next Year’s Recycling

A Solid Waste Advisory Group representing Orange, Chapel Hill, Carrboro, Hillsborough and UNC is working on a plan to fund curbside recycling for all concerned next year.

SWAG, as it’s called, needs to come up with a recommendation by March, because the current funding source dries up in June.

“We’ve been working on a new interlocal agreement, and we’ve gone through several iterarations,” said Carrboro Mayor Lydia Lavelle at Wednesday night’s Assembly of Governments meeting.

She and fellow Solid Waste Advisory Group member Mayor Mark Kleinschmidt of Chapel Hill asked members of the four governing bodies of Orange, Chapel Hill, Carrboro and Hillsborough for more time to come up with a new interlocal funding recommendation for curbside recycling.

Kleinschmidt, Lavelle and others from SWAG had hoped to come into last week’s meeting with that recommendation, but talks are still ongoing. SWAG now hopes to have a recommendation by spring of next year.

That request for more time was granted unanimously.

SWAG has met four times between late August and early October since it was appointed with two members of each local governing body.

During that process, representatives from UNC and UNC Hospital were also invited to join in.

Back in June, Orange Commissioners voted to spend $2 million from the solid waste reserve fund to pay for rural and urban recycling pick-up for the next fiscal year.

But that mechanism comes to a halt on June 30, 2015.

Kleinschmidt told WCHL last week that he’s hopeful that a new agreement is near. He suggested there’s a spirit of cooperation engendered by the county’s actions in June.

“The county took a big risk,” said Kleinschmidt, “and I was really proud of them – with the leadership that’s on the Board of Commissioners right now. They went forward last year and got everybody those blue recycling carts, so that we could continue with curbside recycling.

“They dipped into their own solid waste funds to make sure that we could have curbside recycling in Chapel Hill and Carrboro for this year. And they had no promise that we were going to have an agreement on how we could move forward after this year is over.”

Lavelle told WHCL last week that she agrees with Kleinschmidt that progress is being made.

“I think we all are making good-faith efforts towards a new agreement,” said Carrboro Mayor Lydia Lavelle. “I think that’s our objective. I think we’ve asked a lot of questions about, what are all the fiscal assumptions that kid of underlie the enterprise fund, and what’s the supporting data, if you will, for what the fees would be? So, we’re kind of working through that, and understanding that better.”

There’s definitely an incentive to get an agreement done. Since Orange County rolled out 18,000 blue recycling carts this past summer, curbside recycling has gone up 29 percent.

Blue Recycling Carts Heading To Rural OC Soon

Additional reporting by Aaron Keck

Almost all the new rolling recycling carts are in use in the municipal sections of Orange County, and rural households should be following closely.

“The commissioners did authorize the purchase of 7,000 carts for the rural area,” says Blair Pollock, a Solid Waste Planner with Orange County Solid Waste Management. “

He says there are roughly 13,700 households on the recycling route in the rural part of the county.

However, he says the big gap between the two numbers may not be a bad thing.

“A: we know that not a lot of people recycle at the curb,” Pollock says. “We know that a lot of people will bring their recyclables to convenience centers. And B: not everyone’s going to want a cart. If you have a long driveway, maybe you’d rather keep your bins. In the rural area, there’s a lot more impediments to everyone using a cart.”

He says, in order to find out how many carts are needed, a survey is being conducted in the next several weeks to ask who wants to opt in to the program.

Once the numbers are tallied, the carts will be ordered and delivered.

“We’ll get the carts ordered by November, and we’ll be able to distribute them next January and start collection around February,” Pollock says.

Pollock says that is a carefully-calculated but soft timeframe but that there are always problems that could arise.

“Can you says, ‘ice storm’,” Pollock says.

Let’s hope not.

OC Curbside Recycling: Some Tips For First-Time Cart Users

Orange County has delivered more than 18,000 new blue recycling carts to single-family households in Carrboro, Chapel Hill and Hillsborough, and Orange County residents seem to be adjusting well to the new system.

But there are still a few minor kinks that can be easily worked out.

“Orange County Solid Waste has completed the distribution of over 18,000 carts in Carrboro, Chapel Hill and Hillsborough for single-family recycling,” said Orange County Solid Waste Planner Blair Pollock. “They’re now all in use. We’re completing the third week of collection with the carts. And by and large, people seem to be happy. But there’s still a few glitches in the system,” said Orange County Solid Waste Planner Blair Pollock.

There are a few things that folks who are new to curbside recycling should know.

Carts should be placed with the cart lid facing the street. That will ensure that the lid opens right into the truck when the robot arm lifts the cart off the ground.

Pollock added that the cart wheels should be flush against the curb, and that carts need to be at least three feet away from possible obstructions, such as telephone poles, fire hydrants, and trees.

Pollock said that even though some people have yet to catch on to all the steps of modern recycling, workers are managing to make all of their pickups, while striving for more efficiency.

“We’re trying to encourage all those things so that more of the collection can be automated, and therefore, done more quickly and more efficiently,” said Pollock. “It keeps the cost down, and frankly, it also reduces worker injury.”

The newer automated system is a welcome change for workers making the pickups. In the old days, one person drove the truck, while another got out as many as 500 times per shift, to lift between one and three heavy bins at each stop.

Pollock said that if Orange County residents can remember to adhere to all of the recycling steps he mentioned, they’ll be helping some grateful public employees avoid unnecessary manual labor.

He added that if you have any questions about curbside recycling, you can call the Orange County Solid Waste Department at 919-968-2788; or send an email to

Carrboro Aldermen to Vote on $75K Grant for Recycling Carts

The Carrboro Board of Aldermen will vote Tuesday on whether to accept a $75,000 grant for curbside recycling carts.

Stemming from an inter-local agreement between Orange County and The Towns of Hillsborough, Chapel Hill and Carrboro that was approved by all parties in February, nearly $168,000 from Orange County would be added to Carrboro’s $75,000 grant from the North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources, for a total of nearly $243,000.

That money would go toward ensuring that every household in Carrboro is equipped with a curbside recycling roll cart.

Under the inter-local agreement, the Town is required to pay Orange County an amount equal to any grant it receives for the project.

That’s just one of the items on a busy agenda for Tuesday night’s Aldermen meeting, which takes place at 7:30 at Town Hall, located at 301 West Main Street in Carrboro.

It Is Time For A Pay-As-You-Throw Trash Plan?

With town and county officials looking to collaborate on solid waste disposal and recycling, there’s increasing interest in changing the way individuals and institutions handle trash in Orange County.

County Commissioner Bernadette Pelissier says it’s time to seriously consider a pay-as-you-throw system that charges households based on how much waste each generates.

“We know, from a psychological point of view, that paying for something makes people think about it,” says Pelissier. “Just like we got increased water conservation by having the tiered rates. People are now conscious that it’s a precious resource. What we have in our trash cans or recycling bins, that’s a precious resource as well, so we have to frame it very differently.”

Carrboro Alderman Sammy Slade agrees. He says Carrboro is already investigating the feasibility of such a system, with an eye to rewarding residents who reduce their trash output.

“Personally, I’m interested in not just an individual, per-household pay-as-you-throw system- there’s some concern in the Town of Carrboro about the regressive quality of that,” says Slade. “There’s an opportunity, I feel, at the neighborhood level to incentivize the neighborhood to reduce its trash, then credit the neighborhood for it to use through participatory budgeting at the neighborhood scale.”

Though critics of pay-as-you-throw argue it can disproportionally impact low-income households, Orange County Solid Waste Planner Blair Pollock says some elderly residents might actually benefit from the change.

“The predominant low-income family in our county is elderly and lives alone or has a small household,” says Pollock. “So people, like my mom, who live in this county benefit from pay-as-you throw. One could easily flip that argument on its head.”

Switching to a pay-as-you-throw system is part of a larger question of how the local governments can handle solid waste in a socially and environmentally just manner.

Now that the Eubanks Road landfill has closed, the towns and county are trucking trash to a waste transfer station in Durham. That trash ultimately ends up at a landfill in Sampson County.

Board of Commissioners candidate Mark Marcoplos visited the landfill to see firsthand the impact that has on the surrounding neighborhood. He says the largely low-income African-American community is suffering from the burden of Orange County’s trash.

“We’re in this situation where we’re patting ourselves on the back for finally providing social justice to the Rogers Road community and we’re actually affecting a community even worse over the horizon in Sampson County, so this is an issue we have to address,” says Marcoplos.

While some are pushing for the construction of a waste transfer station near Chapel Hill, Town Council member Jim Ward says ultimately, local governments will need to find a more permanent solution.

“I do think that if we go forward and see the need for a landfill, and I think there is one, I think it’s incumbent on us to put it in our own backyard and not be oblivious to it being transported to some impoverished neighborhood in Eastern North Carolina or Southern Virginia or wherever this stuff goes,” says Ward.

Orange County Commissioner Earl McKee says all stakeholders need to get together to come up with short and long-term solutions.

“I think that we’re going to need to look at this entire discussion of what we’re going to do with our trash, how we’re going to handle recycling, and we need to look at it in a comprehensive manner along with the towns.”

But once local governments work out a plan, McKee says they’ll need the political will to stick to it.

“I think its finally going to break down to having to devise a plan, then have the backbone to stand by that plan and put it into effect.”

The towns and county are in the process of hashing out a new interlocal agreement on solid waste. County commissioners will get their first look at the draft agreement on May 13.

Pelissier, Slade, Pollock, Ward, Marcoplos and McKee made those comments during the “Environment” panel of WCHL’s 2014 Community Forum. You can listen to the full forum here.

Recycling Issue Brings Rural Residents Out for Orange Commissioners Hearing

HILLSBOROUGH – A public hearing on a proposed tax district for recycling pickup in Orange County brought a lot of people out to the Board of Commissioners meeting Tuesday night.

Here were just a few of the comments from behind the guest podium:

“I loved Hillsborough in the past, but now I want to take my business and home elsewhere just because we are overtaxed, and I don’t get the benefits.”

“If it is a new tax, shouldn’t we be allowed to vote on it?”

“I find the argument that us rural folk are lazy and won’t recycle without this scheme disingenuous.”

“It’s not a matter so much of the cost. It’s a matter of principle.”

“Never mess with something that’s working. These convenience centers are working. Leave them alone.”

The proposed service district would replace an annual 3-R fee of $38 that was added to property tax bills from 2004 until 2012. That was when the county discontinued the fee over concern about its legality.

The tax district idea has sparked anger among some vocal residents of rural areas.

They contend that they can take care of recycling themselves, by carting it off to convenience centers, as they’ve been doing for a long time.

Some speakers said they don’t want to push big recycling bins down long, winding gravel driveways. Some insisted they don’t want to pay for a service they’re not going to use. And some said they’re already being taxed too much in Orange County.

There were also a few comments in favor of the service district:

“I just want to speak to this idea that people can selectively choose the taxes they want to pay or that they think benefit them. If that was the case in this country, we would not have a functioning society.”

That’s Tom Linden, a resident of the dense suburban Stoneridge neighborhood of unincorporated Orange County. He says that 300 households in his area “need and want” curbside recycling.

Terri Buckner lives on Yorktown Drive in Chapel Hill, in the southern part of the county. She said her neighborhood gets “forgotten a lot” in this discussion.

“We don’t have access to the convenience centers that you all here in the north have,” she said. “So, for me, hauling my recycling to the convenience center is really quite an inconvenience, even though I am paying for your convenience centers.”

Such arguments did not sway rural residents such as Steve Hopper of Efland.

“Those with curbside recycling access – 57 percent are using it,” he said. “In the rural areas without curbside recycling – 50 percent are doing it. That’s a seven percent difference. You’re going to spend how much money for seven percent?”

Commissioners must come up with a one-size-fits-all solution, because State law mandates that a service district must be contiguous. Targeting curbside pickup to those that want it most is not an option.

Mark Marcoplos, who’s running this year against Commissioner Earl McKee for the District 2 seat, spoke at the hearing. He faulted Commissioners for not opting to simply keep the 3-R fee in place.

“This worked very well, until the county lawyer offered his opinion that, based on a case involving Cabarrus County, the county might face a legal challenge on the fee,” said Marcoplos.

He was referring to a decision by the North Carolina Supreme Court in August 2012, which struck down school facility fees in Cabarrus County. Orange County took that as a precedent that invalidated county government fees if they were not approved by the General Assembly.

Bonnie Hauser, who’s running against Chairman Barry Jacobs for his at-large seat, also spoke at the hearing. She said that while she is not a resident of the proposed tax district, she cares about the issue.

“There is no option that I can see that takes me down a path of a service district tax as a fair or equitable solution for the county,” she said.

It was the second of two public hearings about the recycling district. Commissioners could make a decision at the April 15 meeting, to be held at the Southern Human Services Center on Homestead Road in Chapel Hill, starting at 7 p.m.